Presenting the fire-saw fire starting method as far easier than it is
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Claim: Bear starts a fire using a friction method in 40 seconds without breaking a sweat.
In Copper Canyon, Mexico, Bear starts a fire using the fire saw method in 40 seconds without breaking a sweat[1]. This would be an incredible time for even an expert. Even with that, friction-based firestarting is backbreaking labor -- generally at least a few exhausting minutes for an expert in an optimal situation.
[edit] Analysis
Oppose: They could have just edited it down. Or he could just be that good.
- Support: That doesn't justify deliberately deceiving viewers into thinking it's that easy. A novice may spend hours trying to get a fire going this way and still fail. To present it as far easier than it would be for even an expert is grossly irresponsible.
Oppose: Never intended to be presented as 40 seconds. It was simply an edit for viewer convenience.
Support: Why not edit it to 10 seconds for my convenience? As a viewer I want to be shown an accurate method of starting a fire for my survival, which is the premise of the show. If it took one hour, they should state that they have edited the footage to a shorter time.
- Oppose: The show is little over 40 minutes, in Sahara episode Bear claim it took him 45 minutes to climb a dune i don't know if its true or not, but I'm damn sure they didn't show 45 minutes of dune climbing, only a few seconds, so i should just assume i can climb a dune like that in little time just because i saw that on TV? And supposedly the goal is teach YOU HOW TO, why would he put is neck on the line of stay cold all night because he failed to start a fire? THIS IS HOW YOU MUST DO, sure its not gonna take you 40 seconds, but he's just hosting a show i think people fail to understand that. Honestly i don't think it needs to be 100% real to be a good show.
- Support: Of course before the scandal that he sleeps in hotels and fakes scenes erupted, he claimed the show WAS 100% real. His older shows had to be edited to remove the blatant lies and falsifications and disclaimers had to be added to his new shows. Grylls is a pathological liar and egomaniacal publicity freak. There is no proof that he has ever once, in his entire life, spent even ONE night completely alone in the wild. He is completely unqualified to offer “survival” advice to anyone.
Oppose: Don't be ridiculous. So you mean for shows like Deadliest Catch, they should show you how they catch the crabs, step by step, second for second?
- Support: Deadliest Catch doesn't edit the video to try and make it look as though they caught all of their fish in one minute, without the fishermen even breaking a sweat.
Oppose: Bear says in that episode that he has worked at it for nearly an hour when he gets it going.
- Support: Perhaps in the edited version (made to respond to allegations of fakery) he says that. Watch for yourself in the original version.
- Oppose: Apologies, I was thinking of the Osu Peninsula, Costa Rica episode. On camera (not narrated) Bear says that he's been working nearly an hour to get the fire going.
- Support: Do you mean this faked friction fire scene?
