Climbing a tree to pick "ripe" avocados

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Claim: Not only is climbing an avocado tree a good way to get injured and a bad choose of priorities, but it won't get you ripe avocados, either.

Let's just ignore that food is not your top priority in a survival situation. Let's just ignore that you should never take unnecessary risks (climbing a tall tree over rock certainly qualifies). The simple fact of the matter is that climbing an avocado tree won't get you any ripe avocados -- at least not for a few days in optimal conditions, and probably over a week[1].

Avocados are a "climacteric fruit"; that is, to say, a fruit that ripens off the plant due to the production of ethylene, like tomatoes[2]. Unlike tomatoes, however, avocados fall from the tree before they ripen. They slowly ripen on the ground.[3][4][5][6] Avocados in the tree are not ripe; you cannot simply climb an avocado tree, pick avocados, and eat them right there the way he does.

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Oppose:who says the avocadoes he eats are ripe?

Support:Bear states it in the episode.

Support: Non-ripe avocados are hard as a rock.

Oppose:I hate to tell you this but avocados here in Hawai'i are ripe when green and can be hard to tell from un-ripened ones. They are not black when ripe like you guys on the mainland find in the store. Things ripen QUICKLY here the tropics and if you waited for them to fall on the ground and be black they would be rotten or full of bugs. Where in the episode does it say he went from Pu'u O'o to 130? It looks like they dumped him off somewhere else. Anyway direct path or not, avocado trees as well as all the other tropical fruiting trees grow like weeds here so saying he didn't find one is grasping.

Support: Creating straw men is what is grasping. Nobody said (A) there weren't avocado trees growing wild in Hawaii, or (B) that all ripe avocados are black. Nobody even mentioned color. What was stated, with many references, was that avocados do not ripen on the tree. If you have a counter-reference, you ought to provide it. As for where he was, there are several articles on this subject.

Support: Bear also lost a lot of energy hiking for many miles out of the area since avocado trees do not exist in the most direct route between Pu'u O'o and his final destination near the end of Highway 130.

Support: When Bear lands on the dormant crater he states: "only a few feet beneath me is a lake of molten rock." Molten rock was near the surface only near Pu'u O'o or in lava tubes between Pu'u O'o and the ocean in 2006 when the Kilauea episode was first shown. At the end of the episode when he finds civilization he clearly points to a local residence at the end of Highway 130 on the eastern side of the lava fields. The only other exit near the ocean would be the ranger station on the western side at the end of Chain of Craters Road. If avocado trees grow like weeds in the area between Pu'u O'o and Highway 130, it should not be difficult to provide photos and locations.